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 1 
 on: July 31, 2012, 04:33:49 PM 
Started by Mars - Last post by Mars
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19069343

 2 
 on: June 06, 2012, 08:24:49 PM 
Started by RealityRSV - Last post by Mars
I agree with you on raising for image.  I disagree on the MTT part of it (or rather, certain stages of an MTT or SnG).

At a cash game, the average stack should have 100 blinds, give or take.  Because of this, you can make raises for image - sure I might lose 3 big blinds this hand but the next time I do the same thing with aces I'll be profiting 20 or more!

In an MTT or the early stages of a SnG, if the table is still deep-stacked, this still applies.  However, if the average stack is down to 11 blinds or so, you simply don't have the wiggle room anymore to create your image - by this point your image has been created, you should use it to your advantage certainly but you really shouldn't try to encourage people to challenge you anymore (unless of course you have the goods).

A few nights ago I played a 5 card draw play money tournament on stars, I took 11th place or so out of 600-700 players.  Granted, as it was play money it wasn't the toughest field I'll ever go against but I'd still apply the same basic strategy in a $100 tourney:

Assuming I had chips, I built up a very LAG image - raising with all sorts of hands - up until I was called down and people could clearly identify me as a maniac.  At that point, I tightened way the hell up, and simply collected the chips when I was dealt a hand.  I would continue this until it was obvious I was seen as a tight-ass, at which point I'd start up again with the LAG act.

However, this all relied heavily on my having chips to lose - in a tournament, the fewer chips you have, the more valuable those chips are.  This is a principle the Independent Chip Model (something I am a firm believer in) is based upon.  If I have only 10 blinds left, I can't call off 5 blinds (or raise 5 blinds) looking to enhance my image, as it's simply too costly.

Another way to think about it:
Let's say you're homeless, and have $100 to your name.  Someone comes along and offers a wager: Put $1,000,000 on the line against your $100, all you need to do is correctly guess the roll of a die (we're assuming it's a fair die).  Oh, right...you also had anything to eat or drink in 3 days, and you're right outside a Burger King.

Now take the same situation, only instead of being homeless, you're someone who is doing well - maybe not outstanding, but you can afford to pay your bills and are able to scrap together some savings each month.

While $1 million will go incredibly far in either of these cases, the fact is in the second scenario it's quite obvious you could afford to risk $100 for such a huge reward given the risk.  In the second scenario, if you lose the wager, you don't put quite as much away for the month - maybe you don't put anything away - but you're still doing well.  In the first scenario, if you're not right, you starve, plain and simple.  This is exactly how MTTs and SnGs work when it comes to comparing the big stack with the short stack.

 3 
 on: June 05, 2012, 04:50:18 AM 
Started by RealityRSV - Last post by RealityRSV
Not just raising for info Mars, I'd say this is more raising for IMAGE.  I agree in a lot of scenarios ie a tight table or deeper chipstacks, then raising either of these hands is asking for trouble... on a looser or fishier table however, this sells an image of being overactive and encourages certain players to bet back.  Ask yourself, If you never open raise the bottom of your range would villain consider calling with holdings such as {A9s+,A10os+,KJs+,KQos,QJs,22+} or re-raising with {88+,AJs,AKos}?

By betting these hands ourselves we block out most of the nit/rocks calling/raising range.... but price in a lot of fish, donks, LAGs and stations.  And because we are more active, we are more likely to get action when we do have our monster range, and are more likely to play for a bigger pot rather than a small one.

You are correct in that this is probably horrible play for cash games, but these are turbo MTTs and SNGs.  Perhaps I should have mentioned that...  I've found open raising to be a lot more profitable than playing the tighter image in this format.

Still, the thread idea is valid... sometimes it gets overlooked just how impotant it is to understand WHY you should bet in certain spots, and I hope this can become a dump for HHs where we can either post what we believe are examples of good play, or hands for analysis. 


 4 
 on: June 04, 2012, 06:00:39 PM 
Started by RealityRSV - Last post by Mars
Gasp! Raising for information?!  Shocked

On a serious note, I'm actually not sure I'd raise either hand (albeit for a reason other than "for information").

8-handed, AJ out of position is just asking for trouble, plain and simple.  Realistically, I think you lucked out by running into people playing their AA and AK so aggressively.  This is a hand that I like to fold right off the bat, no questions asked.

The second hand is dependent entirely on fold equity - if this was a rare occurrence, fine - but the fact is by making that raise you are pricing yourself to call the all-in over the top - which even when you're live, you don't like calling off half your chips with live cards.  Mind you, at a cash game this would be a completely different story.

 5 
 on: June 04, 2012, 10:19:46 AM 
Started by RealityRSV - Last post by RealityRSV
PokerStars Hand #81478020245: Tournament #570111801, $13.78+$1.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2012/06/04 17:08:07 WET [2012/06/04 12:08:07 ET]
Table '570111801 5' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: V@dik_82 (755 in chips)
Seat 2: Juritmix (1365 in chips)
Seat 4: RealityRSV (3100 in chips)
Seat 5: G-Pro74 (4230 in chips)
Seat 6: Perich85 (835 in chips)
Seat 7: luis kies (1660 in chips)
Seat 8: januzzz85 (1070 in chips)
Seat 9: pittex (2330 in chips)
V@dik_82: posts small blind 50
Juritmix: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RealityRSV [Js Ah]
RealityRSV: raises 145 to 245
G-Pro74: folds
Perich85: folds
luis kies: folds
januzzz85: folds
pittex: raises 755 to 1000
V@dik_82: folds
Juritmix: raises 365 to 1365 and is all-in
RealityRSV: folds
pittex: calls 365
*** FLOP *** [3s 7c 2s]
*** TURN *** [3s 7c 2s] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [3s 7c 2s 2c] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Juritmix: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
pittex: shows [Kh Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
Juritmix collected 3025 from pot

PokerStars Hand #81478426745: Tournament #570111801, $13.78+$1.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2012/06/04 17:16:42 WET [2012/06/04 12:16:42 ET]
Table '570111801 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: V@dik_82 (905 in chips)
Seat 2: Juritmix (3950 in chips)
Seat 3: masomara (2620 in chips)
Seat 4: RealityRSV (1955 in chips)
Seat 5: G-Pro74 (3830 in chips)
Seat 6: Perich85 (1905 in chips)
Seat 7: RS2 AUDI (2670 in chips)
Seat 8: januzzz85 (920 in chips)
Seat 9: pittex (1880 in chips)
pittex: posts small blind 100
V@dik_82: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RealityRSV [7c Qc]
Juritmix: folds
masomara: folds
RealityRSV: raises 245 to 445
G-Pro74: folds
Perich85: folds
RS2 AUDI: folds
januzzz85: folds
pittex: folds
V@dik_82: raises 460 to 905 and is all-in
RealityRSV: calls 460
*** FLOP *** [4s Jh 3s]
*** TURN *** [4s Jh 3s] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [4s Jh 3s 2c] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
V@dik_82: shows [Ts 4d] (a pair of Fours)
RealityRSV: shows [7c Qc] (a pair of Queens)
RealityRSV collected 1910 from pot
V@dik_82 finished the tournament in 27th place

 6 
 on: June 03, 2012, 06:40:48 PM 
Started by rw11687 - Last post by rw11687
Its one of those hands that look odd, but is a result of the flow of the game, and was pretty standard at that point.

 7 
 on: June 03, 2012, 05:09:39 PM 
Started by rw11687 - Last post by Mars
Both are ugly hands, to be sure...altho I'd like to know your reasoning behind your preflop play on the second hand.  I know you're heads up and relatively deep-stacked, but 9 blinds on JT?!

 8 
 on: June 02, 2012, 09:37:27 AM 
Started by rw11687 - Last post by rw11687
Yeah, I definitely didn't play the river well. Should have kept it low and just checked. But the fact that he chased an inside draw is a bummer, seems like bad plays have been getting rewarded against me recently. I know that's the variance in poker, but it doesn't make it sting any less.

Sorry for the following vent - please ignore it. I have had a tough run of luck on the cash tables though, and it is really starting to piss me off. I haven't gotten much to play with, but when I do I get the money in the pot in great spots only to lose on some 2 or 3 outer.  Haven't caught a flush draw to save my life. And when I do get a big hand, its either a suckout or folds. And the folding isnt because I am giving away my hand, I have tried various methods to get value and each time its insta fold.

 9 
 on: June 02, 2012, 09:29:54 AM 
Started by rw11687 - Last post by rw11687
2 hands, within a few hours of each other, literally took me from a winner to a loser on the day. $350+ swing on 5 total outs between the two. Makes me sick sometimes.

Game ID: 68237931 1/2 Hydrogen (BBJ) - 2 (Hold'em)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Commons (219.20).
Seat 2: Yo_11 (186.11).
Seat 3: Milwaukee2 (388.85).
Seat 4: ryanunc12 (352.08).
Seat 5: HamburgerHelper (203).
Seat 6: meandkids (90.10).
Player Yo_11 has small blind (1)
Player Milwaukee2 has big blind (2)
Player Yo_11 received a card.
Player Yo_11 received a card.
Player Milwaukee2 received a card.
Player Milwaukee2 received a card.
Player ryanunc12 received card: [Qc]
Player ryanunc12 received card: [Qh]
Player HamburgerHelper received a card.
Player HamburgerHelper received a card.
Player meandkids received a card.
Player meandkids received a card.
Player Commons received a card.
Player Commons received a card.
Player ryanunc12 raises (6)
Player HamburgerHelper folds
Player meandkids raises (26)
Player Commons folds
Player Yo_11 folds
Player Milwaukee2 folds
Player ryanunc12 allin (346.08)
Player meandkids allin (64.10)
Uncalled bet (261.98) returned to ryanunc12
*** FLOP ***: [Ac 4s 7c]
*** TURN ***: [Ac 4s 7c] [6s]
*** RIVER ***: [Ac 4s 7c 6s] [9d]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 179.95. Rake 3. BBJ 0.25
Board: [Ac 4s 7c 6s 9d]
Player Commons does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Yo_11 does not show cards.Bets: 1. Collects: 0. Loses: 1.
Player Milwaukee2 does not show cards.Bets: 2. Collects: 0. Loses: 2.
Player ryanunc12 shows: One pair of Qs [Qc Qh]. Bets: 90.10. Collects: 0. Loses: 90.10.
Player HamburgerHelper does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
*Player meandkids shows: Three Of Kind of 4s [4h 4d]. Bets: 90.10. Collects: 179.95. Wins: 89.85.
Game ended at: 2012/6/2 11:8:44

Game started at: 2012/6/2 8:5:52
Game ID: 68218037 0.50/1 Adamantium (BBJ) (Hold'em)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 5: Big_Buck (91.75).
Seat 6: ryanunc12 (106.85).
Player ryanunc12 has small blind (0.50)
Player Big_Buck has big blind (1)
Player Big_Buck received a card.
Player Big_Buck received a card.
Player ryanunc12 received card: [10s]
Player ryanunc12 received card: [Jh]
Player ryanunc12 raises (2.50)
Player Big_Buck raises (9)
Player ryanunc12 calls (7)
*** FLOP ***: [7s 3c Jc]
Player Big_Buck bets (11)
Player ryanunc12 raises (33)
Player Big_Buck allin (70.75)
Player ryanunc12 calls (48.75)
*** TURN ***: [7s 3c Jc] [9h]
*** RIVER ***: [7s 3c Jc 9h] [3d]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 183. Rake 0.50
Board: [7s 3c Jc 9h 3d]
*Player Big_Buck shows: Two pairs. Js and 9s [Js 9c]. Bets: 91.75. Collects: 183. Wins: 91.25.
Player ryanunc12 shows: Two pairs. Js and 3s [10s Jh]. Bets: 91.75. Collects: 0. Loses: 91.75.

 10 
 on: June 01, 2012, 04:57:31 PM 
Started by Mars - Last post by Mars
When the forum was built, I wanted it to be as inclusive as possible for all variations of poker, and all sorts of situtations.  Unfortunately, this lead to a lot of different boards, so much so that it's a bit overwhelming to view them all on one page.  That's why the front page only displays 5 categories in addition to recent posts.

Here's a quick rundown of those categories, to give you a better idea of where to post (and where to look for posts concerning a particular topic):

  • 7-High News - Anything announcements related to 7-High as a site will be posted here (including any contests, giveaways, additions to the site, etc.)
  • 7-High Forums Games - Pretty self-explanatory, if it has to do with members getting together for a game of poker it will be here.
  • Game Strategy - Any discussion pertaining to a specific game (such as Texas Hold'em or Omaha) goes here.  Also located here is "Poker and the Law" as well as rooms dedicated to individual poker sites.
  • Situational Strategy - Slightly different from Game Strategy, this is where you go if the discussion has to do with a particular situation for poker (for instance, talking about making a transition from Online to Live play would go here).
  • Lounge - For all your non-poker related needs Smiley

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