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Author Topic: Views on this one? $10, 3 table SnG, two opponents - one allin  (Read 3368 times)
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« on: November 27, 2008, 01:02:30 PM »

PokerStars Game #224144444444444: Tournament #1233333333333, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/11/27 14:50:54 ET
Table '123332689 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Knighty89 (845 in chips)
Seat 2: 7letters (2180 in chips)
Seat 3: Mooros (3665 in chips)
Seat 4: maaxie009 (980 in chips)
Seat 5: Oleper (2410 in chips)
Seat 6: eurojoy (3820 in chips)
Seat 7: davidvakx (2445 in chips)
Seat 8: sproed (3170 in chips)
Seat 9: Indigo5500 (3585 in chips)
7letters: posts small blind 50
Mooros: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 7letters [Qd Kd]
maaxie009: raises 100 to 200
Oleper: folds
eurojoy: folds
davidvakx: calls 200
sproed: folds
Indigo5500: folds
Knighty89: folds
7letters: calls 150
Mooros: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [2d 8h Qc]
7letters: bets 500
Mooros: folds
maaxie009: raises 280 to 780 and is all-in
davidvakx: calls 780
7letters: calls 280
*** TURN *** [2d 8h Qc] [4h]
7letters: checks
davidvakx: bets 1200
7letters:...........

ok, I think it's a folder isn't it. There's a good case for folding preflop but I had reasons not to here.
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and what are you putting him on?
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2008, 02:30:05 PM »

Indeed, a very easy fold - he's betting into a dry side pot, so he has no incentive to bluff.  Worst case scenario, he is bluffing and you make a note of it for later.  Chances are he has AQ or trips and doesn't want any flush chasers in there.  Depending on reads of villain, I may be unable to rule out Q8 as well.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2008, 02:42:50 PM »

It almost always a fold here. The only hands he may bet and we beat are QJ or QT but i think they are unlikely. Most of the time we are way behind and also what mars said about the dry side pot makes it more likely that we are way behind.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2008, 03:05:15 PM »

You are commited to call this imo.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2008, 03:09:40 PM »

You are commited to call this imo.

If he folds he will have 1200 behind with 50/100 blinds. Thats pllenty left to play with.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 03:22:16 PM »

still in sng id say its a mistake to fold this, since you get so nice odds to call this. you need to win one of four times to make this call EV+ and im sure you will.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 03:38:00 PM »

still in sng id say its a mistake to fold this, since you get so nice odds to call this. you need to win one of four times to make this call EV+ and im sure you will.

Not at all.  While you would need to win 1 out of 4 in a cash game in order to make this call +EV, the same does not hold true for tournaments and sit-n-gos.  This is because each chip does not hold cash value.  If you double up on the very first hand of a SnG, did you just guarantee yourself a double-up of your buy-in?  While it helps (and your EV for the sit-in-go has gone up), you are by no means guaranteed even a cash in the game.

A tool located on this page will show that if you double your chip stack, you do not actually double your EV - in a standard 9-man sit-n-go, you raise by 82.5%.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 04:41:38 PM »

here's the full hand.....


(50/100) - 2008/11/27 14:50:54 ET
Table '123332689 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Knighty89 (845 in chips)
Seat 2: 7letters (2180 in chips)
Seat 3: Mooros (3665 in chips)
Seat 4: maaxie009 (980 in chips)
Seat 5: Oleper (2410 in chips)
Seat 6: eurojoy (3820 in chips)
Seat 7: davidvakx (2445 in chips)
Seat 8: sproed (3170 in chips)
Seat 9: Indigo5500 (3585 in chips)
7letters: posts small blind 50
Mooros: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 7letters [Qd Kd]
maaxie009: raises 100 to 200
Oleper: folds
eurojoy: folds
davidvakx: calls 200
sproed: folds
Indigo5500: folds
Knighty89: folds
7letters: calls 150
Mooros: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [2d 8h Qc]
7letters: bets 500
Mooros: folds
maaxie009: raises 280 to 780 and is all-in
davidvakx: calls 780
7letters: calls 280
*** TURN *** [2d 8h Qc] [4h]
7letters: checks
davidvakx: bets 1200
7letters: folds
Uncalled bet (1200) returned to davidvakx
*** RIVER *** [2d 8h Qc 4h] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maaxie009: shows [Ks Qs] (a pair of Queens)
davidvakx: shows [Ac 8c] (a pair of Eights)


maaxie009 collected 3140 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3140 | Rake 0
Board [2d 8h Qc 4h 6c]
Seat 1: Knighty89 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 7letters (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Mooros (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: maaxie009 showed [Ks Qs] and won (3140) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Oleper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: eurojoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: davidvakx showed [Ac 8c] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: sproed folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Indigo5500 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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